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Post by Skull on Mar 4, 2005 19:50:53 GMT -5
Hey blue, I just remembered something from the last tournament I went to.
When you use Change of Heart, or something like that on spirit reaper, dose it destoy spirit reaper? Or is there some kind of special rule saying that spirit reaper dosn't get destroyed when you use something like COH on it.
The Judge in the tournaments I go to says that there is a rule like that but I disagree, what do you think?
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Post by bluepokenut on Mar 4, 2005 22:20:48 GMT -5
Snatch steal, change of heart, and cards of that kind all KILL sprit reaper. If it is specifly designated it is destroyed.
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Post by Skull on Mar 5, 2005 19:05:48 GMT -5
that's what I thought. But the judge in the tournaments I go to says that there is some kind of unwritten rule that says that spirit reaper isn't destroyed and what he says goes in the tournaments.
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Post by bluepokenut on Mar 5, 2005 23:32:20 GMT -5
Straight from the yugioh site; Here is the link Spirit reaperWhen "Spirit Reaper" is targeted by an effect, "Spirit Reaper" is destroyed by its own effect AFTER resolving the effect that targeted it. For example, if "Spirit Reaper" attacks and "Magic Cylinder" is activated, designating "Spirit Reaper", first "Magic Cylinder" will resolve, negate the attack, and inflict 300 damage to the controller of "Spirit Reaper". Then, after that, "Spirit Reaper" is destroyed by its effect. "Spirit Reaper" is destroyed by its own effect after a card that targets it resolves. If a Spell Card targets it, and the activation of that Spell Card is negated (such as with "Magic Jammer"), then "Spirit Reaper" is not destroyed. However, if the effect of the Spell Card was negated, such as if "Imperial Order" is active, then "Spirit Reaper" is destroyed because the Spell Card resolves (even though its effect is negated). Even if "Imperial Order" is already active on the field, you can activate a card such as "Tribute to the Doomed" designating "Spirit Reaper", and "Spirit Reaper" will be destroyed by its own effect. "Spirit Reaper" is only destroyed by its own effect if it is face-up on the field when the effect designating it as a target activates, AND after the effect designating it as a target resolves. If you Special Summon "Spirit Reaper" with Monster Reborn, or flip it face-down with "Book of Moon", or flip it face-up with "Book of Taiyou", it is not destroyed. If a face-down "Spirit Reaper" is targeted with "Change of Heart", then Flip Summoned, it is not destroyed because it was face-down when "Change of Heart" was activated. If "Spirit Reaper" is targeted by the effect of "Relinquished", "Spirit Reaper" is an Equip Spell Card after the effect of "Relinquished" resolves, so it is not destroyed.
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Post by Skull on Mar 7, 2005 18:34:54 GMT -5
I agree with everything you just said, it's just that the judge at the tournaments I go to says that cards like COH, creature swap, and stuff like that don't destroy spitit reaper. But I completely agree with you.
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Post by bluepokenut on Mar 7, 2005 21:31:07 GMT -5
There are way too many"judges" out there that dont know how the game even works.
This isnt what I said it is straight from the Yugioh FAQ section. There for everyone on the planet to see and read. All you have to do is read the card.
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Post by Skull on Mar 8, 2005 17:53:38 GMT -5
Well I completely agree with you but the judge dosn't. But if I disagree with what he say's he will kick me out of the tournament. I need to tell him to go look at the FAQ.
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